Conferences and workshops
Happy Clog hadn't been around for so much as a day yet and already it was generating WaSP buzz. One of the things discussed over at the WaSP (and Molly's site) is a conference on web standards and accessibility, to be held in the Netherlands. We're still only in the very first stage of making this happen, but I have some thoughts on it that I'd like to share with you already.
If you haven't read any posts that discuss this conference yet, here's a quick summary: we (Media Design and Happy Clog) want to organise a conference on web standards and accessibility to be held in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Quoting myself:
"We have three target audiences in mind for the conference - all separate groups but closely related ones: business executives (those who decide), web developers (those who make) and college professors (those who teach)."
The first group, business executives, is possibly our most important target audience; the Netherlands are currently very much unaware of web standards, and we feel this is because there has hardly been any demand for standards compliance or accessibility all these years. Companies and government bodies don't ask for accessibility, in turn, web developers don't care to know about it. Only a handful of developers (and by that, I mean companies who develop websites, not individual people) are aware of and use web standards. These companies (such as my own) try to promote them, but mostly the effect is that they create standards-compliant sites with hardly anyone noticing or caring.
In order to spread web standards in the Netherlands, convincing the business executives that they should ask for standards-compliance and accessibility will be an integral first step. We hope that this will cause a snowball effect, in fact, we're pretty sure of it: laws of supply and demand and all that. With the people that decide on these matters asking for standards, we're sure to see website developers get themselves up to date on this.
However, convincing business executives is much easier said than done. These people are hard to sway with things like technical advantages or big Cool™ factors; they are concerned with the financial aspects primarily. Fortunately for us, standards-based development practices tend to be cheaper, and the outcome has a lot of financial benefits over the old-school approach.
Then there's the web developers, a.k.a. those who make the websites. In the Netherlands, this group is largely unaware of standards-compliant development practices. They will have to be convinced that it's time for them to re-educate themselves and adopt entirely new approaches and techniques. These people are very stubborn, though (I'd know, I'm one of 'm), so convincing them that they're using highly outdated methods will require very delicate handling. And, of course, awesome examples of why it's so much more fun to use CSS and build accessible websites.
Catering to the developers means we'll have to provide workshop-like presentations that explain how to switch around from the old table-based method and learn CSS to create rich, flexible, accessible and modern websites.
And then you have the third crowd: professors and teachers, a.k.a. those who teach. These are often seen as the root of all evil in the Dutch web standards scene, as these people are currently teaching 6-year old practices to large groups of people, and as it is, they're the only ones doing any teaching. Universities and graphics schools are all very much behind on things, refusing to modernize their thinking, clinging on to old study material in ways that can only be seen as a fear of change.
Of course, I'm exaggerating it a little bit. It's not like the Netherlands are completely oblivious to all things web standards. We have our share of standards-aware companies, both developers and larger organisations that have moved to standards-compliant demands for their online presence. However, we are far behind compared to English-speaking countries such as the UK. A very few exceptions aside, not a single government website is accessible - even though our government has had rules and demands set up for this for quite some time, now. This has to change, and that's why we're organising this conference.
Mingle-time
While being interviewed for the WaSP article, I mentioned how one of the things we want to do at this conference is having parallel sessions, two at a time, so that the third group will have an entire session's worth of free time to mingle.
Why is mingling so important, you wonder? Well, other than being frequently cited as the most valuable part of a conference experience, mingle-time is invaluable because it allows the attendees to discuss what they have just learned, with each other. And not just for a quick 15 minutes, no, they can really discuss what they have just heard in their last presentation. Also, it will give them a chance to ask more questions to the speakers. One thing I've noticed from the @media conference is that people have a lot more questions remaining after the Q&A round of a session has ended; some are too shy to stand up in front of 400 others to ask their question, for others there is just no time anymore, and so forth.
Mingling is important because it gives people a chance to turn the theoretical subject matter that they've just been exposed to into a practical solution for them. Giving them this chance right there in the middle of the conference, constantly after every two sessions, means that they can do this with the information still fresh in their minds. Mingling time at the end of the day is less useful for this as that's mostly the time wherein you want to unwind from the day, and after the conference there's no mingling time remaining and the information won't be fresh in people's minds anymore.
We hope that this approach will produce a more satisfying and enjoyable conference experience, leading to better overall results.
Workshops
Now, all this talking about conferences has really gotten me in the mood. What mood? The lets-enjoy-and-promote-web-standards-together mood! And it just so happens that I found out about a very promising workshop last night: CSS for Designers, a one day workshop by none other than Molly E. Holzschlag and Andy Clarke! For anyone who considers themselves not an expert yet, this will be a very interested and helpful workshop. For anyone who is still largely unfamiliar with modern web development practices using XHTML and CSS, this will be an invaluable workshop.
There's only room for 40 people, though, so if you want to attend, you'd better hurry!
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I am particularly interested in dealing with the education. As a student myself, I see the poor education on webstandards --at least at my university and according to PPK it isn't much different elsewhere-- way too much for my little mind to handle.
Now, I haven't given it much thought, but at this point I am not convinced a conference will reach that particular group of people. It's too early to make any long and bold statements, so I am looking forward to our next meeting, assuming it will be discussed there. :-)
PS: Very nice seeing the WaSP giving attention to this.
Jeroen,
We will be inviting these groups directly. We can't force them to be there of course, but inviting a lot of them should get at least some of them there :)
Yes, next Happy Clog meeting will discuss these matters most definitely.
Goes without saying that I want to attend, let's see how things work out.
Also, as a former teacher I might be able to help in the education department. That's certainly something I'd very much like to be involved with.
Congrats on launching Happy Clog. Hopefully I will get some time to come over and hang with you guys @ some point in the future. It's been too long since my last trip to the land of clogs ;-)
Ben,
It would be great if you could help out in that department. At the very least, your connections (which I do expect you to have ;-)) would be helpful!
Aaron,
Thanks, and definitely! Just let me know in advance when it seems likely you'll be here again, and I'll try and organize the next meeting in a time and place that allows you to join us. Would be great to have an international visitor!
Cool! I travel to A'dam from time to time (friends, clients) - I'll be there for the conference if all goes fine and something isn't going to cross my plans. (It's great that it'll be held in English, my Dutch isn't that good :D)
I'll drop you a mail...
You should see the HTML/CSS/JS/PHP module on my school (Haagse HogeSchool). A direct quote from the crappy PowerPoint presentation:
Need I say more? I don't think so.
Just wanted to say Great Idea. Especially the focus on education - having come from a non design education background I was always sort of suprised by the lack of extra knowledge those that have studied design or web design have, even now with new graduates.
Any idea of the general timeframe for this? I'd love to start trying to get across, planning time and saving money and all that.
Any chance on organising some Happy Clog activities or get togethers outside of A'dam in the future, Faruk? I live up North in Groningen and am very interested in joining regular meetings etc. But the trip to A'dam is simply to long for just a few hours in a cafe...
Maybe there are some other web standards enthousiasts like me that live up North? Maybe we could start localized meetings or something...
Sounds like a great idea. I'd especially like a workshop about javascript and the DOM, btw.
@4rn0: Duh! :-)
gareth:
All I can say at this point is that I'm personally aiming for next summer.
4rno:
Our meetings are most often held in Amsterdam, Leiden and Utrecht. Groningen is indeed a bit far, but I'd say worthwhile for at least one time, when we're having it in Utrecht for instance. Just to see how it goes, what it's like etc.
And of course, you're free to organize get-togethers in Groningen, there's several people there who'll want to attend :)
Maaike:
One of those might actually happen before this conference, even. PPK and Bobby had a Javascript meeting in Amsterdam a while ago (which I also attended, along with about 12 others), and one of the things we want to get done is organizing Javascript / DOM scripting workshops. :-)
I'd like 2 B there - at the conference!
Have followed the writings of your fellow cloggers the last couple of years and I'd sure like 2 B a part of the conference!
Fun that Anne's working at Opera now, in the city I was born and raised in (Oslo)!
Good initiative this, especially that it comes from our little flat, low-lying, cheese-loving, clogging country!
Faruk,
"...not a single government website is accessible..."
Our website www.minvws.nl is accessible and standards compliant XHTML/CSS since 31 march 2004! After that more government websites followed, among which advies.overheid.nl and www.overheid.nl.
There is a lot happening in dutch government nowadays, and lots more to come :-).
Gerrit,
Indeed, I knew this and I really should have mentioned them as the exceptions. At the time of writing, however, I was just looking at city websites and completely forgot the MinVWS site.
Also, overheid.nl has only recently been made compliant, and that was with the help of one of our own Happy Cloggers :-)
Ah!
Gerrit: I actually already said, "A few exceptions aside" -- so I did remember those three. :-)
sounds interesting. Did you guys decide on a date yet for the upcoming conference?
Juaron,
No, nothing is decided upon yet at this point.
Where can I apply for the conference?
I would love to attend. Mainly because accessibility is something I want to make my school aware of. When I started my higher education in the south of the Netherlands, they had never heard of the possibility for a blind person to go on the internet....
If the conference is before December that would be great but a bit unrealistic I guess.
If it would be like next (year 2006) summer that still would be okee. I could use the mingle time to talk with people and see if they are interested in giving a guest class.. After 2006 I am writing my final workexperince essay, so time for fun en usefull things like did would less available.
greetings Hanne